Tuesday, May 19, 2009

葉金川

In a civilized country, someone like 葉金川 would be spatted upon, scolded wherever he goes, and tried for treason. In Taiwan, he is Minister of Health (衛生署長).

First watch this video from 2009.05.19 《大話新聞》section 3.

A transcript of the exchange is included at the end. A translation of the transcript by Sean Huang is added below it on 2009-05-30. Some thoughts:
  1. He could not talk coherently.
    Student: What title are we using to participate in the WHA?

    Yeh: Please have self respect... Can you speak Taiwanese? ... We must have dignity... What do you want?... Why do I need to answer your question?... I love Taiwan....
  2. Not only did he NOT answer legitimate and intelligent questions, he mumbled irrelevant (We must have dignity) and offensive (Why do I need to answer citizens' questions?) gibberish .
  3. He became foul mouthed, using languages that made me shudder.
  4. Michael Turton: Afterwards he convened an instant press conference (using taxpayers' money), where he sniffled and whimpered. He never answered the question: What title are we using to participate in the WHA?
Isn't a Minister supposed to be an outstanding citizen, capable, ethical and patriotic? Why is this Minister incoherent, evil and openly selling out his country?

In a civilized society, Yeh would be demoted, punished and tried. In Taiwan, he will be promoted and made a hero. Consequently, majority Taiwanese will be on his side.





mstammy。泰咪小姐:中國台北無知醫師葉金川失控

以下轉自P2 8A板感謝ludwig辛苦打字排版

人物表 : 葉金川 , 立委B:林郁方立委A:李嘉進

學生A:我們是用什麼樣的名義來參加WHO

葉金川:好啦!你算了吧你!(閩南語)

立委A:(對著學生A說)請自重一下好嗎?

葉金川:我們台灣人的尊嚴吼,被這種人這樣吼!

     啊,沒有用啦!
  學生A:誰說我是假留學生,我就馬上拿出學生證來!
      (積極地要向葉金川證明自己是學生)
  葉金川:(手指向學生A)講台灣話啦!拜託!(閩南語)
  學生A:沒問題!(閩南語)
  葉金川:(手指向學生A)講好啦!(閩南語)
  學生A:你們說我是假留學生,
     我馬上拿出我的學生證給你們看!(閩南語)
  立委B:要自重啦!自重啦!見不得台灣好!見不得台灣好!
  學生B:你為什麼要說我?我是學生……
  學生A:我沒有見不得台灣好……
  葉金川:誒!你會不會講台灣話啊?(閩南語)
  學生A:我怎麼不會講(閩南語)……(一段客家話)
  立委A:請你(學生A)自重一下!
  葉金川:(對著媒體攝影機)我們吼,就要有尊嚴啦!(閩南語)
  立委A:(對葉金川說)那個,我看這樣子……
  學生A:(大喊)三個!我們是以什麼樣的身份……
  葉金川:(用手比出「走開啦」的手勢)

立委A:好好的用gentleman的方式吼,好好的為台灣的人民,

      大家講一些話。如果這樣不尊重、不自重的方式……
  葉金川:(插話進來)我……我是%$#&(不清楚),噢!
      不好意思噢!我們大家已經都離開了……(閩南語)
  學生B:(插話進來)所以我們等到這個時候。(閩南語)
  學生A:(插話進來)對,我們等到這個時候,到現在都沒有吃飯,
      我們要等你……(結巴)回答這個問題。三項!(閩南語)
  葉金川:What do you want?
  學生A:我們是用什麼樣的名義來參加WHO?(閩南語)
  葉金川:我為什麼就要回答你們?(閩南語)
  學生A:因為你是代表台灣來參加WHO的人,那我們是用什麼名義呢?(閩南語)
  葉金川:(手指向學生A)什麼人比我更愛台灣?你跟我說!(閩南語)
  學生A:不必比愛台灣,你現在你是代表台灣的人來donate五百萬美金!
      你必須回答這個問題!(閩南語)
  葉金川:(起身離去)不要在這邊漏氣啦!
      ……你是台灣人嗎?(閩南語)
  學生A:(向前堵住葉金川)我是台灣人!(閩南語)
  葉金川:你台灣人?!(閩南語)
  學生A:我怎樣?我說的話……台灣人……(閩南語)
  葉金川:這裡是我……(結巴)我用的……你……(閩南語)
  學生A:我請問你,你用的場地、用的錢,是誰的錢?
      是台灣人繳稅的錢!(閩南語)
  葉金川:(轉身走去)誒,這我的……(閩南語)

學生B:(在後面邊追邊大喊)為什麼不敢回答這些問題?

      你為什麼要規避這些問題?
  葉金川:這種沒用啦!你這種沒用啦!(閩南語)
  學生B:我們學生沒有用嗎?(閩南語)
  學生A:誰沒用?你跟我比愛台灣要幹嘛?(閩南語)
  葉金川:這種人吼!(閩南語)
  學生A:為什麼我們是這種人?我們是哪一種人?你說說看!
      你代表台灣來donate這五百萬,
      請問你是用什麼樣的身份?我們是哪一種人?(閩南語)
  葉金川:(生氣)你碰我!  
  旁人A:署長,不要啦!
  旁人B:署長!署長!
  學生A:我們是哪一種人?(閩南語)
  葉金川:你在幹嘛?
  學生B:他沒碰你,是他碰你!
  葉金川:What are you doing?
  立委B:(大聲斥責)誒,你們這樣妨礙自由捏!
      人家要走路,你們在那邊擋人家、在那邊叫囂,
      台灣人的臉都被你們丟光了!我告訴你!
      台灣人不像你們這樣子!丟光了我告訴你!
      你們一點台灣味都沒有!

學生讓開,葉金川開始往前,大家全跟進

 

立委A:見不得台灣好!見不得台灣好!為什麼你見不得台灣好?

立委B:(繼續斥責)莫名其妙!台灣的臉都被你們丟光了,我告訴你!

  學生A:(繼續質問)台灣以什麼樣的身份參加WHO
  葉金川:(手指向學生A)(拉長音)不要臉啦!(閩南語)

(葉金川一行人步出大門)

  

人群:(抗議聲)葉金川,不要賣台灣!

     葉金川,不要賣台灣!葉金川,不要賣台灣!……

(葉金川的座車在一片抗議聲中駛離)


分析以上逐字稿可獲得以下發現:

1. 葉金川與同行立委態度極差

(1)葉金川四度用手直指學生A,甚至罵出「不要臉!」

 葉金川:(手指向學生A)講台灣話啦!拜託!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)講好啦!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)什麼人比我更愛台灣?你跟我說!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)(拉長音)不要臉啦!(閩南語)

(2)葉金川語氣輕浮挑釁

 葉金川:好啦!你算了吧你!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(用手比出「走開啦」的手勢)
 葉金川:(起身離去)不要在這邊漏氣啦!
     ……你是台灣人嗎?(閩南語)
葉金川:這種沒用啦!你這種沒用啦!(閩南語)
 葉金川:這種人吼!(閩南語)

(3)葉金川氣急敗壞,一度瀕臨失控,旁人連忙制止

 葉金川:(生氣)你碰我!
 旁人A:署長,不要啦!
 旁人B:署長!署長!

(4)其他立委也大力斥責,尤以立委B(林郁方)為最

 立委B:(大聲斥責)誒,你們這樣妨礙自由捏!
     人家要走路,你們在那邊擋人家在、那邊叫囂,
     台灣人的臉都被你們丟光了!我告訴你!
     台灣人不像你們這樣子!丟光了我告訴你!
     你們一點台灣味都沒有!
 立委B:(繼續斥責)莫名其妙!台灣的臉都被你們丟光了,我告訴你!

2.葉金川一直都未正面回應問題

(1)拒絕回答

 學生A:我們是用什麼樣的名義來參加WHO?(閩南語)
 葉金川:我為什麼就要回答你們?(閩南語)

(2)轉移焦點

 學生A:因為你是代表台灣來參加WHO的人,那我們是用什麼名義呢?(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)什麼人比我更愛台灣?你跟我說!(閩南語)

(3)直接忽略

 學生A:不必比愛台灣,你現在你是代表台灣的人來donate五百萬美金
     你必須回答這個問題!(閩南語
 葉金川:(起身離去)不要在這邊漏氣啦
     ……你是台灣人嗎?(閩南語

3.葉金川陷入語言錯亂:
 一方面要求別人講閩南語,一方面自己又不斷冒出英文

(1)不斷要人講閩南語
葉金川:(手指向學生A)講台灣話啦!拜託!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)講好啦!(閩南語)
 葉金川:誒!你會不會講台灣話啊?(閩南語)

(2)以英文問句回應

 葉金川:What do you want?
 葉金川:What are you doing?
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[Same transcript, but with Sean Huang's translation.]

人物表 : 葉金川 , 立委B:林郁方立委A:李嘉進


學生A:我們是用什麼樣的名義來參加WHO

Student A: What's our name in participating WHO?

葉金川:好啦!你算了吧你!(閩南語)

Minister Yeh: Ok! Come on! (in Taiwanese)

立委A:(對著學生A說)請自重一下好嗎?

Lawmaker Lee Chia-jin: (pointing at Student A) Please be respectful to yourself, ok?

葉金川:我們台灣人的尊嚴吼,被這種人這樣吼!

     啊,沒有用啦!
Minister Yeh: We Taiwanese's dignity has been shouted by people like this. Oh, it's useless!

  學生A:誰說我是假留學生,我就馬上拿出學生證來!(積極地要向葉金川證明自己是學生)
Student A: Who said I am not a Taiwanese overseas student? I will show you my student ID and prove myself right now. (The student keep holding on to her student ID and trying to prove it to Yeh)

  葉金川:(手指向學生A)講台灣話啦!拜託!(閩南語)
Yeh: (finger pointing at Student A) Speak Taiwanese! Please! (spoken in Taiwanese language)

  學生A:沒問題!(閩南語)
Student A: No problem (in Taiwanese language)

  葉金川:(手指向學生A)講好啦!(閩南語)
Yeh: (finger pointing at Student A) Use perfect Taiwanese language (in Taiwanese language)

  學生A:你們說我是假留學生,
     我馬上拿出我的學生證給你們看!(閩南語)
Student A: You people said I am not overseas Taiwanese student. I am proving it to you! (in Taiwanese language)

  立委B:要自重啦!自重啦!見不得台灣好!見不得台灣好!
Lawmaker Lin Yu-fang: Be self-respectful! Be self-respectful! You just don't want Taiwan to do well! You just don't want Taiwan to do well!

  學生B:你為什麼要說我?我是學生……
Student B: Why you are condemning me? I am a student...

  學生A:我沒有見不得台灣好……
Student A: Not that I don't want Taiwan to do well.

  葉金川:誒!你會不會講台灣話啊?(閩南語)
Yeh: Oh my god! Do you know how to speak in Taiwanese? (in Taiwanese language)

  學生A:我怎麼不會講(閩南語)……(一段客家話)
Student A: Of course I can speak Taiwanese

  立委A:請你(學生A)自重一下!
Lawmaker Lee Chia-jin: Please respect yourself!

  葉金川:(對著媒體攝影機)我們吼,就要有尊嚴啦!(閩南語)
Yeh: (facing medias' cameras) We people have to be respectful to yourself. (in Taiwanese language)

  立委A:(對葉金川說)那個,我看這樣子……
Lasmaker Lee Chia-jin: (talking to Yeh) Well, let me see...

  學生A:(大喊)三個!我們是以什麼樣的身份……
Student A: (raising voice) three questions! What's our name in participating...

  葉金川:(用手比出「走開啦」的手勢)
Yeh: (hand signaling: Move!)

葉金川:(插話進來)我……我是%$#&(不清楚),噢!不好意思噢!我們大家已經都離開了……(閩南語)

Yeh: I am ......, Oh, I am sorry. Oh, all my guests have already left. (in Taiwanese language)


  學生B:(插話進來)所以我們等到這個時候。(閩南語)

Student B: Let's why we wait till now (in TW language)


  學生A:(插話進來)對,我們等到這個時候,到現在都沒有吃飯,我們要等你……(結巴)回答這個問題。三項!(閩南語)

Student A: Yes, we've been waiting till the banquet finishes and we haven't even had our dinner yet. We are doing all these to get answers from you. Three questions! (in TW language)


  葉金川:What do you want?

Yeh: What do you want?


  學生A:我們是用什麼樣的名義來參加WHO?(閩南語)

Student A: We are participating WHO in the name of what? (in TW language)


  葉金川:我為什麼就要回答你們?(閩南語)

Yeh: Why should I answer your questions? (in TW language)


  學生A:因為你是代表台灣來參加WHO的人,那我們是用什麼名義呢?(閩南語)

Student A: Because you are the delegate for Taiwan. Tell me we are in the name of what? (in TW language)


  葉金川:(手指向學生A)什麼人比我更愛台灣?你跟我說!(閩南語)

Yeh: (pointing at Student A) Who loves Taiwan more than I do? You tell me! (in TW language)


  學生A:不必比愛台灣,你現在你是代表台灣的人來donate五百萬美金,你必須回答這個問題!(閩南語)

Student A: I am not competing with you on who has more love for Taiwan. Now you are the delegate for Taiwan and donating 5 million dollars to WHO. You need to answer this question! (in TW language)


  葉金川:(起身離去)不要在這邊漏氣啦!
      ……你是台灣人嗎?(閩南語)

Yeh: (Stood up and getting ready to leave) Don't stand here and ashame yourself! Are you a Taiwanese? (in TW lanugage)


  學生A:(向前堵住葉金川)我是台灣人!(閩南語)

Student A: (move forward to block Yeh from walking away) I am Taiwanese! (in TW language)


  葉金川:你台灣人?!(閩南語)

Yeh: You are a Taiwanese?! (in TW language)


  學生A:我怎樣?我說的話……台灣人……(閩南語)

Student A: What's wrong with me? My language...... Taiwanese...... (in TW language)


  葉金川:這裡是我……(結巴)我用的……你……(閩南語)

Yeh: This is my place. I paid for this ballroom. (in TW language)


  學生A:我請問你,你用的場地、用的錢,是誰的錢?是台灣人繳稅的錢!(閩南語)
Student A: Let me ask you: Who paid you for renting this ballroom? Whose money you are spending? It's Taiwanese taxpayers' money! (in TW language)

葉金川:(轉身走去)誒,這我的……(閩南語)

Yeh: (turn around and try to walk away) Oh my god, this is my......

學生B:(在後面邊追邊大喊)為什麼不敢回答這些問題?你為什麼要規避這些問題?

Student B: (shouting and chasing behind Yeh) Why you are afraid of answering my questions? Why you are avoiding my questions?

     
  葉金川:這種沒用啦!你這種沒用啦!(閩南語)

Yeh: This is useless! You this sort is useless! (in TW language)


  學生B:我們學生沒有用嗎?(閩南語)

Student B: We students are useless? (in TW language)


  學生A:誰沒用?你跟我比愛台灣要幹嘛?(閩南語)

Student B: Who's useless? Why do you need to compete with me for whom has more love for Taiwan?


  葉金川:這種人吼!(閩南語)

Yeh: This sort of people! (in TW language)


  學生A:為什麼我們是這種人?我們是哪一種人?你說說看!你代表台灣來donate這五百萬,請問你是用什麼樣的身份?我們是哪一種人?(閩南語)

Student A: What do you mean by "this sort of people"? What kind of people we are? You tell me! You are delegation sent by Taiwan and donating 5 million dollars. I am asking you you are here in the name of what? What kind of people we are? (in TW language)
     
  葉金川:(生氣)你碰我!

Yeh: (angry) Don't touch me!

  
  旁人A:署長,不要啦!

Crowd A: Don't be like this, Minister!


  旁人B:署長!署長!

Crowd B: Minister! Minister!


  學生A:我們是哪一種人?(閩南語)

Student: What kind of people we are? (in TW language)
 

葉金川:你在幹嘛?

Yeh: What are you doing?


  學生B:他沒碰你,是他碰你!
  Student B: She did not touch you. It was him who touched you!

葉金川:What are you doing?

Yeh: What are you doing?


  立委B:(大聲斥責)誒,你們這樣妨礙自由捏!人家要走路,你們在那邊擋人家、在那邊 叫囂,台灣人的臉都被你們丟光了!我告訴你!台灣人不像你們這樣子!丟光了我告訴你!你們一點台灣味都沒有!

Lawmaker B: (shouting harshly) This is false imprisonment. We are trying to walk away but you keep blocking our way and shouting. You are ashaming Taiwanese people. Let me tell you! Taiwanese people are not like you. Let me tell you: you are not like Taiwanese at all!

學生讓開,葉金川開始往前,大家全跟進

(Students are stepping aside, Yeh started to walk away and all medias follow right behind him)

 

立委A:見不得台灣好!見不得台灣好!為什麼你見不得台灣好?

Lawmaker Lee Chia-jin: You don't want Taiwan to do well! You don't want Taiwan to do well! Why you don't want Taiwan to do well?

立委B:(繼續斥責)莫名其妙!台灣的臉都被你們丟光了,我告訴你!

Lawmaker Lin Yu-fang: (keep shouting) Ridiculous! You are ashaming Taiwan. I am telling you!

  學生A:(繼續質問)台灣以什麼樣的身份參加WHO
Student A: (keep questioning) Taiwan is participating WHO in the name of what?

  葉金川:(手指向學生A)(拉長音)不要臉啦!(閩南語)
Yeh: (pointing at Student A) Shame on you! (in TW language)

(葉金川一行人步出大門)

(Yeh's group stepped out of the hotel)

  

人群:(抗議聲)葉金川,不要賣台灣!葉金川,不要賣台灣!葉金川,不要賣台灣!……

Crowds: (voice of protesting) Yeh Jin-chuan, DO NOT sell out Taiwan! Yeh Jin-chuang, DO NOT sell out Taiwan! Yeh Jin-chuang, DO NOT sell out Taiwan!

(葉金川的座車在一片抗議聲中駛離)

(Yeh's car drove away from the scene under Taiwanese people's protesting)

End of translation.



分析以上逐字稿可獲得以下發現:

1. 葉金川與同行立委態度極差

(1)葉金川四度用手直指學生A,甚至罵出「不要臉!」

 葉金川:(手指向學生A)講台灣話啦!拜託!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)講好啦!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)什麼人比我更愛台灣?你跟我說!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)(拉長音)不要臉啦!(閩南語)

(2)葉金川語氣輕浮挑釁

 葉金川:好啦!你算了吧你!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(用手比出「走開啦」的手勢)
 葉金川:(起身離去)不要在這邊漏氣啦!
     ……你是台灣人嗎?(閩南語)
葉金川:這種沒用啦!你這種沒用啦!(閩南語)
 葉金川:這種人吼!(閩南語)

(3)葉金川氣急敗壞,一度瀕臨失控,旁人連忙制止

 葉金川:(生氣)你碰我!
 旁人A:署長,不要啦!
 旁人B:署長!署長!

(4)其他立委也大力斥責,尤以立委B(林郁方)為最

 立委B:(大聲斥責)誒,你們這樣妨礙自由捏!
     人家要走路,你們在那邊擋人家在、那邊叫囂,
     台灣人的臉都被你們丟光了!我告訴你!
     台灣人不像你們這樣子!丟光了我告訴你!
     你們一點台灣味都沒有!
 立委B:(繼續斥責)莫名其妙!台灣的臉都被你們丟光了,我告訴你!

2.葉金川一直都未正面回應問題

(1)拒絕回答

 學生A:我們是用什麼樣的名義來參加WHO?(閩南語)
 葉金川:我為什麼就要回答你們?(閩南語)

(2)轉移焦點

 學生A:因為你是代表台灣來參加WHO的人,那我們是用什麼名義呢?(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)什麼人比我更愛台灣?你跟我說!(閩南語)

(3)直接忽略

 學生A:不必比愛台灣,你現在你是代表台灣的人來donate五百萬美金
     你必須回答這個問題!(閩南語
 葉金川:(起身離去)不要在這邊漏氣啦
     ……你是台灣人嗎?(閩南語

3.葉金川陷入語言錯亂:
 一方面要求別人講閩南語,一方面自己又不斷冒出英文

(1)不斷要人講閩南語
葉金川:(手指向學生A)講台灣話啦!拜託!(閩南語)
 葉金川:(手指向學生A)講好啦!(閩南語)
 葉金川:誒!你會不會講台灣話啊?(閩南語)

(2)以英文問句回應

 葉金川:What do you want?
 葉金川:What are you doing?


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